Excited and Scared (Ep. 155 - Ari Shapiro of NPR's All Things Considered)

This Week's Guest: Ari Shapiro

My guest this week is Ari Shapiro, host of All Things Considered. These days, he tells other people's stories on NPR, but his own story was considerably is more winding than you might expect -- behind his calm journalistic voice is a man who spent some time as an illegal immigrant, who carried mace for protection in high school, who nearly became an actor, and who might never have found his place on the radio if a gay icon hadn't intervened on his behalf.

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This Week's Recommendation

Thanks again for listening. Into the Woods does seem to come up a lot on this show, and I don't think it's a surprise that a play about soul-searching and finding one's place in a hostile world speaks to queer people. Steven Sondheim's musicals certainly have a way of letting you know: Life's going to be tough. There are no easy answers. Now let's sing about it.

For this week's recommendation, take a look at another of Sondheim's shows, Assassins. It goes without saying that it's a play about moral gray areas and feeling adrift -- but this time, instead of fairy tales as a framing device, the play tells the story of people who have tried to kill presidents.

There's Leon Czolgosz, who wanted to kill McKinley; and Sam Byck, who had plans to kill Nixon. John Hinckley went after Reagan, and Lynette Fromme wanted to get Gerald Ford. Most of the characters you've never heard of -- when's the last time you thought about Sarah Jane Moore or Giuseppe Zangara? But this play excavates their stories, explores their motives, and turns them into real people driven by madness or desperation or a need to belong or dreams of being heard.

It's a hard show to watch, particularly given the politics under which the country is currently laboring. And there's a beautiful epiphany in the song Something Just Broke, when various Americans sing about where they were when they heard Kennedy had been shot. The violence of the assassination is so far away and to someone so symbolic as to be completely abstract and yet it jolts everyone out of their routine not with meaning but with a flash of ambiguity and bewilderment, confusion about why it happened and what it means and what comes next.

The show sets up a lot of questions that it doesn't answer. -- but it doesn't want to answer those questions. It's not an explanation, just a reflection. It's portrait of a country that, even after 200 years, is still struggling to make sense of its own dream.

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